Curse

LeftAlone- · Oct 21, 2005, 12:06 PM // 12:06

I have come to realise (about friggin time!) that as this is an Off-Topic forum, I could very well start posting these messages in here.

Firstly I have a few words to the admins:
If there is anything wrong with me posting these threads up here, please, do contact me about it and tell me how should I do it in a more acceptable way.
I will give you a few links in here so you can take a better look at them and know a bit better what am I on about..:
www.fourwinds10.com
www.paoweb.com
www.starshipcapricorn.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PagPawnt/

There are many more sites where this information comes from, but as I mostly read them from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PagPawnt/, I do not visit the original sites.

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Also.. I desided another name for the thread mite be better, so that I could keep posting new posts into this thread, without having to make a new one each time with a name that has to do with the subject. The desired name would be: Messages from the Galactic Federation and More.
Please edit that if possible.
Thank you.
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I know that at some point, I will be enevitably causing some flaming in these threads, as it is such a subject that will create many drasticly different opinions.
For the sake of us all, please, keep these threads in a respectful shape.
I do not wish any negativity from people towards each other, nor towards me.

THIS IS A SORT OF INFORMATION THAT HAS TO BE VIEWED WITH A CRITICAL EYE, AND IS NOT PRESENTED AS 100% TRUTH.
Please keep that in mind when reading.

Other than that, feel free, and please do talk about these things, as I believ, or hope atleast, that we can get some very interesting conversations going.
Though I suspect not that many comments will come, but all that really matters is that people read this... Hope its not too much to ask.

Oh.. and also when and if someone asks me questions about this stuff, do not expect me to be able to answer everything, as I myself am still just learning. Noone the less, I will try to answer as much as I can.

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And now.. for the first message..
It mite be a bit confusing since I imagine it would be quite hard to understand much of anything from the messages that come these days, if you havent been following the case for four years, like I have.
You will catch up on it eventually..

Enjoy your read!
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Ela - Galactic Federation

Ela 10.21.05.

In your understanding of time, you will find that those that are ready are soon to take steps that will lead them on to Ascension. The transition will be awesome and so quick you will be astonished. In linear time in less than 6 years you will have purified your body and lifted its vibration up, and it will be quite different to what it is now. You will be ready to ascend with your new body prepared for 5th dimensional existence. With it you will have opened your full DNA and all the attributes of a Higher Being will be yours.

Even now as you absorb more light you are bringing the process of change into being, and you will find that abilities you did not have previously are revealing themselves. E.S.P is one area of development that will come to all, and you will reach a point where communication takes place without the spoken word. Healing will be developed to a fine degree but not required in the latter stages, as resulting from your changes no disease or illness will continue to exist. It is a feature of existence in the higher dimensions that your bodies are more composed of Light which is pristine and cannot be distorted. Without the encumbrance of a physical body, and instead one of Light, you can move instantaneously through the power your power of thought.

Those of you who have had out of the body experiences, will understand what it is like to be free of your present heavy and unwieldy body. To be without the troubles that bodies often carry, without the aches and pains and other reasons for discomfort. You do not realize what a burden you carry until you are free of it. Imagine being clear thinking at all times and able to tap into the pool of consciousness of the All That Is. Words cannot really lift your imagination sufficiently to paint the true picture, but once you understand you will not want to return to anything less.

It is the grandeur, perfection and color that will impinge upon you. The wonderful peace and harmony that you can feel beyond any doubt. Majestic and panoramic levels of existence where all is pleasing to the eye. A never ending experience that no matter how far you seem to travel there is always something new for you. Each soul you meet will be a different expression to yourself, and quite Godly in their demeanor.

What I have described is very much how you would find it on Arcturus. We have buildings but they are not built as such, but conceived in the mind and thought into being. Each one you see gives out a pleasing light and is designed to smooth without the clash of sharp edges, and this also applies to the inside of the buildings. There is no need for any maintenance as they are everlasting, and could if necessary repair themselves. This will sound strange, but everything has a consciousness that will always strive to keep its perfection as originally created.

Amongst us there is absolute harmony, and this will be true of all beings at these higher levels. There is a great feeling of love surrounding us and peace reigns supreme. There is no conflict or bad feeling such as people often generate between themselves on Earth. We have long outgrown those types of emotions, and they no longer play a part in our lives. We have a group consciousness that any one of us can tap into, and just like yours it is continually growing as we by no means know it all. We explore the Universe and other dimensions of being thereby increasing our understanding of life. We also serve the Great Spiritual Brotherhood and an example is our present contact with you.

We will have the task of introducing you to new ideas and ways of healing that will speed up your transition ready for Ascension. Our meeting with you is very near, but we shall come after the initial contact and indeed you will get many off world visitors. Your Earth is a center of attention for many others who look for knowledge gained through your experience in duality. You made an enormous sacrifice when you left the higher realms of Light and took on this challenge, and now you are about to emerge victorious. You will have given a great service to others, and the Cosmos will rise up to you in acknowledgement.

To say that you will get your reward is not quite accurate, but it will have enabled you to evolve at a rate you could not have done so in any other circumstances. From your previous high status you accepted the challenge of duality out of service to all those who may follow in your footsteps. You asked for nothing in return, knowing that whatever happened you would never be forgotten. You were promised that at the end of it you would be enabled to return to the higher dimensions from which you came, and so it shall be. You are in fact already on that path and very soon all will become clear, and the way will open up with a great outpouring of Light.

I am Ela of Arcturus, and I come to bring you elation and the promise of great changes that will restore your previous grandeur. Take the energy that comes with this message, it is one of friendship and Love as we extend our hands to you. The darkness that is upon Earth is only transient, and already the Light is transmuting it and it shall soon disappear from your dimension. Many are bringing Light to Earth and the lower energies cannot exist in its presence. Until we stand before you, we leave our energy traces with you and great Love from all Arcturians.

Thank you Ela.

Mike Quinsey

LeftAlone- · Oct 21, 2005, 12:24 PM // 12:24

I just got another email notification of a new post at PagPawnt. I red it, and I think it came right on time to be posted into this thread.

Enjoy.

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Stargateascension] Leah on Living Abundantly during Earth Changes
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:43:20 +0000

Leah on Living Abundantly during Earth Changes
Received by Sal Rachele
October 20, 2005

Beloved friends, this is Leah, again at your service. Today we want to
look at the dichotomy apparent on your planet with regard to the idea
of living in prosperity and abundance in a world gone mad.

Every day you see around you the result of inappropriate distribution
of goods and services, politically motivated wars, environmental
destruction, corporate greed, religious pomposity, and a long list of
other ills. You see an overpopulated world with diminishing resources,
new exotic diseases, rising prices, climate changes, monster
hurricanes, earthquakes, droughts, fires, pestilence and more.

Most of you on the spiritual path recognize that the man-made problems
are a result of a fear-based consciousness and apparent inability to
connect with one's own God Presence within. The so-called
"natural"
problems are a result of Mother Earth's attempts to regain her balance
after millennia of assault upon her resources. However, being citizens
of this planet and living under your various governments and social
structures, you hesitate to break out of the mold and become a
powerful force for good. You recite statements about the healing of
Mother Earth, but many of you do little to actually help. Perhaps you
still believe you are powerless to do anything about the Earth Changes.

Your world is indeed changing. For many, times will be tough. For some
this is necessary in order to force change. And your souls want
change. They will force issues to be right in front of your face if
that is what it takes. Your world has been in a state of imbalance for
a long time and the situation is getting worse. But at the same time,
the greatest of opportunities lies in front of you. Are you willing to
recognize and take advantage of the opportunities? Are you willing to
reclaim your natural inheritance?

Let's put it in simple terms: Do you want abundance? Do you want
prosperity? Do you want happiness? These things are not mutually
exclusive. So many of you have spent lifetimes denying yourselves
material pleasures in the name of serving God. Has this really worked?
Did it make you truly happy? Is a humble servant of God supposed to
live in abject poverty? Does this make sense? Or is it a lie fostered
by those in power to retain their false sense of security?

I, Leah, am known for my harsh and direct approach, and I'm not going
to change that aspect of myself now. Most of you need a whack upside
the head in order to move forward on the soul path you know is right
for you. You have become complacent, most of you. You have accepted
far too much of society's blather and far too little of your own
greatness. Yes, we have been over this before. Now let's take a look
at some solutions.

Do you realize, beloveds, that the TRUTH of who you are includes
material prosperity, abundance, opulence, riches, wealth, luxurious
living and a cornucopia of delicious delights? Yes, that's right, your
favorite spiritual guide is advocating a "life of Riley."

But wait! Before you think I've jumped off the straight and narrow
pious path to God, consider this: Did God create an abundant universe,
teeming with life, or did he create a slave society, grudgingly going
off to work each day to bring home a meager paycheck in the hopes that
the family can pay its bills, trade in the old clunker for a new one,
pay down the perpetually mortgaged home, try to scrimp and save for
Junior's college fund, etc.? Okay, so some of you have already broken
out of that lifestyle. Good! You ALL need to break out of that. Is
that lifestyle worthy of a child of God? Or are you ready for
something much greater?

Now if you're one of those readers who happens to still subscribe to
that way of life, please understand I'm not judging you. However, some
of you need some fire under your seat to get moving on your TRUE
spiritual path. What ignites you? What excites you? Can you get
excited about fulfilling your purpose for being here? If not, what is
stopping you? Is it your mind? Is it your beliefs? That's likely part
of it, and that is why this channel and many more have long been
teaching how to unlock the deeper levels of consciousness. However, at
this unique time in your history, there's much more than simply
changing your mind. You have reached a critical point where you MUST
decide whether or not you are going to embrace your God Presence and
move forward into a wonderful new creation, or go down with the ship.
(I told you I was going to be direct.)

Where are you putting your energy, beloveds? Are you learning to TRUST
implicitly and explicitly in the Source of your Being? Are you
following your TRUE path? Or are you putting it off until the bills
are paid or the relationship improves or the kids are grown? And when
they are grown, what will you choose next as an excuse to avoid
claiming your power?

Let's back up and go over a basic point again. You live in an abundant
universe. If you are not experiencing abundance in your life, then
something is wrong. Something needs to be healed. Will you ignore the
need for healing or do something about it? Recognizing your own
abundance is a great first step. Living from a consciousness of
abundance will allow you to make choices based not on fear of lack or
limitation, but on your heart's desire. Do you trust the universe to
provide for you while you follow your true calling? If not, why? What
past life or present life experience is dictating your choices? What
core negative belief is enslaving your free will? Are these not
important questions you should be asking yourselves daily?

The knowledge of how to live a prosperous and fulfilling life is
available to you now. You have many great teachers, both in embodiment
and spirit, who are guiding you with the most loving of intentions.
We've already been through many lessons on how to discern the loving,
God-aligned teachers from those serving their egos. Using discernment,
can you learn from the examples of those who go before you?

What does a life look like that is based on an abundance
consciousness? Look around you at those who are living their dreams.
You can find them if you look closely. Study them. Emulate them. Do
not blindly follow them, but learn from them. What are they doing
differently from you? How are they approaching life's problems? Are
their problems challenges to be solved, or insurmountable obstacles?

"Leah, you sure ask a lot of questions." That's right,
beloveds.
Someone has got to give you a nudge now and then when you are tempted
to believe the absurdities fostered upon you by your so-called free
press, government, church, or other misguided set of authorities.
Beloveds, you must learn to think and FEEL for yourselves. Let go of
the need for approval. Let go of the need for "security." I've
said it
before countless times, but beloveds, there's no security in the ways
of the world. God is your only security. Living a God-inspired life is
the only way to live. If God is not in charge of your life, then you
indeed have problems that are in essence unsolvable. Is this what you
would choose? Are you really trusting God to run your life? Or are you
allowing God in a little as long as you can keep your boring day job?

Perhaps you are still terrified of your power. It's time to put away
that fear. The only way to put it away is to move through it. Act in
spite of your fear. This is what your teachers are telling you. Are
you listening? Are you letting fear stop you? It's time to enter
directly into your fear and then move beyond it. It is like moving
through a thick fog. Can it really stop you? With God inside and
beside you, you can move through it. Do it today. Reclaim your
greatness and your natural abundance today. Inherit the kingdom today.
Sign the inheritance papers today. Sign them with your willingness to
get out from behind your bushel basket and shine your light brightly
and proudly. You are a child of an infinitely powerful and loving God.
This is your reality. Accept no other this day or any day. I am Leah,
serving in the light of the Radiant One.

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LeftAlone- · Oct 21, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

The latest developments on the front.

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Bush—Cheney CIA/Plame case indictments released this morning
Date: Friday, October 21
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Bush—Cheney CIA/Plame case indictments released this morning

Bush orders Fitzgerald fired and espionage indictments quashed

by Tom Flocco

Washington, DC—October 21, 2005—12:00 EST—TomFlocco.com exclusive—Today Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald handed over 22 indictments to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, accusing President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney and others of espionage, obstruction of justice, perjury and a variety of other charges in the matter of the CIA/Valerie Plame leak-gate case.

According to intelligence sources who spoke with federal whistleblowers Thomas Heneghan and Stewart Webb, Bush then ordered Gonzalez to fire Fitzgerald and have the indictments quashed and sealed.

Gonzalez refused to release the indictments which have been handed down by the grand jury and ordered served by a judge, subjecting the Attorney General to additional charges of obstruction of justice, the sources said.

The indictments confirm our original “Bush-Cheney indicted” report on August 2, 2005.

Gonzalez was Bush’s former personal White House counsel before receiving a presidential appointment as U.S. Attorney General.

The move is reminiscent of the “Saturday night massacre” when President Nixon fired Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in an attempt to save his presidency and obstruct justice.

Intelligence sources added that Bush tried to delay publicity about his attempt to fire Fitzgerald and quash the indictments this afternoon by ordering a diversion regarding a “Capitol Hill police attempt to disrupt a suspicious package in a car near the U.S. Capitol.”

The move to distract attention from the indictments occurred not long after the receipt of process by Gonzalez, according to intelligence sources with knowledge of the events.

While Gonzalez received the service of indictments, Bush was in California this morning and was scheduled to speak at the dedication of the new Air Force One pavilion at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California.

It can be assumed that Bush’s orders for Gonzalez to refuse receipt of process and fire the

prosecutor in the CIA leak case were discussed over the telephone since Bush was to speak at the Reagan Library just a few hours after the indictments were served.

Bush should have finished his speech at approximately 2:30 pm Eastern time, and it is probable that presidential strategy sessions regarding how to prevent the indictments and their criminal contents from becoming public have already commenced.

It is open to conjecture whether Bush could be arrested in California before even returning to Washington, given the criminal nature of the indictments.

An attempt to quash indictments and to fire Fitzgerald may also cause a constitutional crisis if Bush and Gonzalez continue to obstruct justice and defy U.S. law and constitutional legal process.

Intelligence sources told TomFlocco.com that the military or U.S. marshals should arrest Bush, Gonzalez, Cheney and others immediately for their criminal acts in keeping explosive espionage, obstruction and perjury indictments hidden from the American people, all of which affects U.S. national security.

Developing………………
www.tomflocco.com

TheEPIC · Oct 21, 2005, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Bah!!! I'm being assaulted by bold words!!!

kg_lildude1 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:14 PM // 23:14

you had me at BUSH-CHENEY indicted

TheEPIC · Oct 21, 2005, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Yeah, I'm afraid there is just too much to read here. Really, it's overwhelming

kg_lildude1 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:18 PM // 23:18

i think i smell a peach getting ready to be thrown at bush, god knows how many people have been waiting for a real reason to do so

Savio · Oct 21, 2005, 11:19 PM // 23:19

I'm not going to do anything now, but a few things:

1. Don't bold all of the words. It's pretty harsh on the eyes.

2. Links are much appreciated.

3. Something to actually discuss rather than just a bunch of stuff copied and pasted here would be nice. This is a forum, after all.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:21 PM // 23:21

what i bet the people would love to see is whether the charges get mysteriously dropped for some unnamed reason. hmmm i wonder why that would happen. . .

TheEPIC · Oct 21, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Yeah Savio regulate!!

On topic now: I think Bush gets a bad rep just because he can't speak all too learnedly. I think we really should cut him a little slack seeing as almost the same time after both his elections a large national disaster has happened.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEPIC

Yeah Savio regulate!!

On topic now: I think Bush gets a bad rep just because he can't speak all too learnedly. I think we really should cut him a little slack seeing as almost the same time after both his elections a large national disaster has happened.

it's a sign from nature

but yea, he really needs to learnadly learn how to speak, i see more um's come out of his mouth than the cheesey-ums factory when it produces its product

TheEPIC · Oct 21, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

Yeah but in all actuality I'd almost think that he does it on purpose. Makes average people think that he is just like them, garnering plenty of votes.

kg_lildude1 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:30 PM // 23:30

he just overdoes it in the trying to act like the commonfolk category, i mean jeez not even hill billys are that bad

LeftAlone- · Oct 22, 2005, 07:52 AM // 07:52

Oh.. Sorry.. I though the fat letters would make it a bit clearer.. Atleast I find it easier that way.. But okay.. I'll keep em normal now.
Also to the copypasting... I know its a forum and should have more discussion than just copy pasting... Just that yesterday I put these three messages here and there was no comments at all up until this morning, so its kinda hard to talk on your own.
Ofcourse, I would be really happy to talk about this stuff... Would indeed be more fun than just post these here.

What goes to George Bush.. Well... Without saying, we all know in one way or another that theres' something really fishy, and indeed he has lately been just um'ming all the time.. Last few months hes got quite a lot of pressure on him. The problems with the hurricanes and the thousands of complains he gets to deal with from people on all kind of subjects, also these that Im posting about over here.
If these things are true, whitch I have a strong reason to believ indeed are true, I can only imagine what Georgie is going through.. Must be really tuff.
Lets just hope we see some results soon. Its been over four years since I have been following these things, and sadly so many promises have never come to happen. Noone the less, the evidence and what has been said and happend over these years on all sorts of fronts have really got me convinced of these things.

Oh.. and Savio.. Please change the threads name?

Time for another copy paste..
The message for now is a question-answer conversation between Nancy Tate and Hatonn.
Hatonn= Christ Michael = Sananda Michael = Creator God of our local Universe.

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[Wakeup Call] Special from Hatonn, Indictments
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:11:04 +0000

Special Message from Hatonn: Indictments 10-21-05

Q: Hatonn, what can you tell us about the indictments; did they happen and is what is being reported on cloak and dagger and Tom Flocco websites true? (For those of you who may not have seen this news yet, you may go to the following sites for more info.)

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/

CLOAK EXCLUSIVE!

by SHERMAN SKOLNICK, co-host

posted 10/21/5 at 1:30 p.m .Central

U.S. Nervous Breakdown!

U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales visited Special Prosecutor yesterday, was shocked while examining 22 indictments from Federal Grand Juries apparently including Bush himself. Gonzales swiftly disqualified himself refusing Bush's order to on the spot firing Patrick Fitzgerald. Justice Department second in command already gone.

No one left to carry out Bush's order. …………………………………………� �..

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http://tomflocco.com/

Today Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald handed over 22 indictments to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, accusing President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney and others of espionage, obstruction of justice, perjury and a variety of other charges in the matter of the CIA/Valerie Plame leak-gate case.

According to intelligence sources who spoke with federal whistleblowers Thomas Heneghan and Stewart Webb, Bush then ordered Gonzalez to fire Fitzgerald and have the indictments quashed and sealed. READ MORE http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/CiaPlameCaseIndictments.htm

Hatonn: My dear ones there is every ounce of truth to what is being reported. When the truth comes out to the regular media, then there will be a formal declaration of their indictments and we will see a stand that will come down to the remaining few who have been holding on and this will get the ball rolling and the indictments will be served to all of those who are implicated.

With this development today we will be seeing a new brand of justice in this land; we will be seeing the Constitutional law upheld in every case that comes before the people and the courts of the land, beginning with these indictments. They have no leg to stand on for anything that they may bring as defense, for the evidence is so far reaching and complete that there is no way that they can walk away from this in freedom.

Q: Who is going to make the arrests? Who has that power?

Hatonn: The ones who will make that arrests are the military appointees to the court martial boards. They will have full jurisdiction and will be sworn to uphold their agreements or face the very courts that they serve. The procedure will follow that of the military, for since the regime has been under military law, they will have to answer to that law.

Q: What about the military personnel who declared that they would not allow the arrests through the military?

Hatonn: Those generals have already been included in the indictment lists.

Q: How long can the mainstream media be allowed to block the news of this?

Hatonn: They will succeed only as long as it takes for the indictments to be served to those in the media who have been implicated.

Nancy: Thank you Hatonn; this is very good news.

www.nesara.us
www.treeofthegoldenlight.com
You are the promise that you bring to yourselves. Master Sananda Kumara

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LeftAlone- · Oct 24, 2005, 06:01 AM // 06:01

New, interesting developments on the level of justice are advancing, or atleast so they say... Heres' the latest from the front:

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Subject: HELL BREAKING LOOSE IN THE NEXT 3 TO 4 DAYS

It's Time to Celebrate & Plan Big Outrageous Parties.
We'll soon be dispensing funds & devices to free, feed, shelter
& heal people around the planet; as well as the Planet Herself.
Focus on the Joy attached withat & Unlocking Our Vastness.
In the 'mean' time just Enjoy the show as this Reality Shifts......
A Bursting Heart Beaming Up http://TwoLostMoons.com
"YOU ARE GOING TO SEE ALL HELL BREAK LOOSE OVER THE NEXT THREE TO
FOUR DAYS" ANNOUNCE TOM HENEGHAN AND STEW WEBB

by Scott Mowry

10.20.05

In an explosive edition of their "US Intel Show," from Thursday,
October 20, 2005, federal whistleblowers Tom Heneghan and Stew Webb
proclaimed that major developments are very, very IMMINENT in the
united States concerning the potential dismantling and destruction of
the Bush criminal government.

"We happy to announce that, (Special Prosecutor Patrick) Fitzgerald
is in a position to do a lot more than he has done (previously). I
believe you should stay tuned, folks, you are going to see all hell
break loose over the next three to four days, HELL THAT YOU HAVE
NEVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFETIME AS AMERICA POSSIBLY APPROACHES ITS MOST
SEVERE CONSTITUTIONAL AND ETHICAL CRISIS SINCE THE CIVIL WAR."

Heneghan was referring to the culmination of the Fitzgerald grand
juries within the next week and the widely anticipated announcement
of 22 indictments initially. These indictments will include, Dick
Cheney, Irv "Scooter" Libby, Karl Rove, Stephen Hadley, Mary Matlin
and others, while George W. Bush will remain an un-indicted co-
conspirator to the initial charges of outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

Webb was very defiant in his recommended response should any
potential problems arise with the Fitzgerald indictment
announcements. "This is NOT a monarch, this is NOT a kingdom, this is
NOT Mossad headquarters and WE ARE NOT ANY LONGER GOING TO TAKE IT!!!

If they kill Patrick Fitzgerald, if they kill everyone involved (with
the grand juries), you better round up your friggin' guns, you better
hit the streets and you better round up your government officials and
you better take them to justice. IT IS TIME THAT EVERY AMERICAN
STANDS UP AND DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THIS! We are at a point now where
George Bush is talking about blowing up the united States of America
or launching nukes and blaming it on another country to stay in
power," Webb warned.

As usual, Heneghan and Webb discussed a number of powder-keg topics
and speculated on the impact of the volumes of evidence and vital
documents each of them have gathered over the years. Recently, former
National Security Advisor in the Clinton Administration, Sandy
Berger, was permitted by then Bush former NSA Condoleezza Rice, to go
into the national archives and destroy numerous key pieces of
evidence regarding 9/11 and other criminal acts. But both Webb and
Heneghan claim they have obtained copies of that very same evidence.

"There's a few warehouses between me, you and a few other people that
are out there. I think we can easily rebuild all the government-
destroyed documents. If you look at my web site (http://
www.stewwebb.com), that probably represents less than one tenth of
one percent of what we hold. I guarantee you, folks, we have enough
documentation and George Bush, everything he has probably burned, we
have copies of," Webb said.

Webb then announced, "between the documentation we have, we could
drop this entire united States government, the Congress, the Senate,
half the federal judges in this country and 50,000 federal agents
walking around with badges today that are part of the Bush crime
family, the Gestapo goons, most in the FBI, some in DEA, CIA, customs
and the other agencies."

Webb also revealed that several more American media members have
recently made appearances before the grand juries and may be facing
indictments as well in the very near future which not only include
New York Times reporter, Judith Miller, who will be re-indicted, but
NBC's Tim Russert, Time Magazine's Matt Cooper and CNN's Robert Novak.

Heneghan also had some interesting historical information to dispense
regarding the John Fitzgerald Kennedy Presidency and its unrealized
potential for the destiny of this country.

"President Kennedy was assassinated and murdered in cold blood for
two reasons: (he) was not going to allow the Israeli cabalists to
build a nuclear device which Lyndon Johnson allowed to happen within
a year after he took office. (And he) had signed an executive order,
which was basically going to dismantle the Federal Reserve System.

President Kennedy was going to allow the U.S. Treasury to coin their
own currency, which would allow different banks and financial
institutions to compete with each other on a much greater level of
fairness. This was not going to be acceptable to the Millman/Mossad/
Britsh-ridden financial gangs which (would) dismantle their (own)
little piggy bank, which is what is called the Federal Reserve.

Webb then went on to outline the conditions of the US national debt
and how it has reached its now historical record levels and those
that continue to circumvent the world's economy.

"I got evidence, I know of sting operations that were on against
these people over the years. The united States of America's national
debt is equivalent to what the Bush/Clinton/Millman crime family
stole from the American people. When Leonard Millman died a year and
a half ago, he was in control of what I am being told, was bazillions
of dollars, not trillions, bazillions of dollars! I found $3 1/2
trillion and Carl Lender is control of just about as much out of
Ohio, Lender Financial Corp. (etc.)...

And then of course you had Laurence Rockefeller, who died about a
year ago; he was in control of about $6 trillion. How much went to
the families of that money? The Millman estate is showing about $40
billion.

The other $3 1/2 trillion moved in to what they call the 'Gray Man's
Empire,' the Next Knights Templar, the Hundred Bankers, the Templar
of Bankers, the Federal Reserve/World Bank, the Mossad, right back to
the Council of Thirteen, the Illuminati.

The Council of Thirteen Head Chief, Anzwar Ben Schwari (sp?) of
Israel and who is he? He is the head Rabbi of the synagogue churches
throughout the world. He has got the Jewish people fooled. He is the
head of the Church of Satan worldwide and he is the head of the
Illuminati. The Illuminati control over the world, control of
financial resources, control of natural oil and resources throughout
the world.

They want everybody to one day, to bow down and worship Lucifer
instead of worshipping God," Webb revealed.

Heneghan then concluded the show by offering an inspirational
message. "Let me again remind people, twenty-two files have been
handed to Patrick Fitzgerald. He is not looking at those files for
any other reason except but just to do to a quick look-over to make
sure all his 'i's are dotted on these federal indictments.

The Chicago end of the investigation is far reaching it involves
Refco (Corp.), the Clintons and the Bushes, the whole bunch and so we
are tying them up in A NICE LITTLE CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO BE PRESENTED
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE which is called THE LIBERATION OF OUR NATION
FROM THIS PLUTOCRACY, THIS MOSSAD-RIDDEN FILTH," he surmised.

Heneghan and Webb's "US Intel Show" airs weekly over the Turner Radio
Network on Thursday evenings at 8PM EST and 5PM PST.
Heneghan and Webb's "US Intel Show" airs weekly over the Turner Radio Network on Thursday evenings at 8PM EST and 5PM PST.

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The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin......Mark Twain

John Waffletord · Oct 24, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

uhh.. what is all this stuff?

Arturo02 · Oct 24, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

lol nothing says legitimacy more then a website with blinking text.

LeftAlone- · Oct 25, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

New, extremely exciting news. Wonder if we will really be seing that happen.
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From the A*A Report 10/25/05

http://sunriseofthesolardisk.com/

Today’s Special Message from The King of Swords:

HERE COMES HURRICANE FITZGERALD!!!

IT’S GOING TO MAKE HURRICANE WILMA LOOK LIKE JUST A SMALL PUDDLE IN YOUR BACK YARD!

We just heard from ‘our sources’ that the announcement of the Patrick Fitzgerald Grand Jury Indictments could come as early as TOMORROW!!!

NEWS IS BREAKING EVERYWHERE! ALL MEDIA CHANNELS ARE NOW REPORTING STORIES OF THOSE ‘PENDING INDICTMENTS’!!!

Over the weekend we had quite a few updates come in that we want to fill you in on!

First of all, On Friday night on HBO , ‘The Bill Maher Show’ had Arianna Huffington from The Huffington Post as a guest on their show! She was very descriptive in speaking about the ‘war crimes this administration has committed’ and how it all leads to TREASON with these ‘pending indictments’ which are about to come forth!. She told how the outing of the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame was to punish her husband, Joe Wilson, because he wouldn’t go along with ‘the fake intelligence about yellow cake from Niger’ they wanted him to cook up to validate their reason to occupy Iraq.

Also on Friday, David Letterman had Al Franken on his late night show! Al again talked very seriously about ‘those pending indictments’ and again reminded the people that Karl Rove and Skooter Libby would most likely be executed!

He said ‘THREE TIMES’: WE MOST LIKELY WILL SEE PUBLIC EXECUTIONS!

Al does not support the death penalty; however, ‘in this case’ we must follow through with THE LAWS OF THE LAND which states very clearly in The Constitution that the punishment for treason is: Execution by hanging or by firing squad and that we may well be witnessing these public executions very shortly!

Al also reminded everyone that when George Herbert Walker Bush, GW’s father, was Director of the CIA, he passed a law that made it very clear---‘Anyone who revealed the identity of a covert CIA agent would be charged with treason and it would be punishable by death!’

On Saturday, we heard through ‘one of our sources’ that Vice President Dick Cheney is actually under ‘ full active house arrest’ and is being guarded 24/7 by a US Marine White Knight who is WATCHING HIS EVERY MOVE and with him every second---[even in the bathroom]---just TO MAKE SURE!

And, we understand this is not making Mr. Cheney very happy!

Oh my fur and whiskers!

The TRUTH IS COMING OUT EVERYWHERE AND WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE IT ALL!!

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We also heard there is a 24/7 ‘suicide watch’ going on at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!

Here are the stories:

SHERMAN SKOLNICK REPORTS THAT INDICTMENTS FOR BUSH ADMINISTRATION NOW TOTAL 28

by Scott Mowry

10.24.05

On a special edition of "Shop Talk" from www.cloakanddagger.de , for Saturday, October 22, 2005, Sherman Skolnick detailed the latest developments with the Patrick Fitzgerald grand jury indictments, which have now been released from the Special Prosecutor's office.

Skolnick reported that the number of indictments that Fitzgerald handed over to US Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez sometime Friday morning, October 21, now number a total of 28 and not the original 22 that had been widely speculated previously. Apparently, Gonzales was extremely shaken on learning of the veracity and scope of the indictments and reluctantly informed George W. Bush, who promptly ordered his Attorney General to fire Fitzgerald.

"Alberto Gonzales came in a three-vehicle convoy to the federal court house in the District of Columbia to look at the indictments. Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald was there and Gonzales looked at the indictments and almost collapsed, he was so shocked. His job was to take a copy of the indictments to show them to the occupant of the White House, Mr. Bush.

And notice the protocol. Unlike any other criminal defendant, they were going to show the indictments to the accused criminal defendant, and say 'do you wish to accept this' and Bush probably would say 'no-no, take it back.' What sort of procedure is this", Skolnick said humorously.

"Gonzales on the spot disqualified himself. The second in command in the justice department had departed a week before The third in command is not available so they got a technical out. Well, that's not the procedure for an indictment! There is something so ridiculous here that it is hard for us to describe this with somewhat of a straight face," he added laughing.

Skolnick surmised that the mainstream press might not yet be prepared to report the indictments as not to alarm the American public and the extremely fragile financial markets. "The real purpose is to prevent a panic. They don't know how to explain all of this to the American people. Because believe it or not, this may unravel the Kennedy assassination, (and) the fraudulent election of 2000," said Skolnick.

Lenny Bloom also reported that their cloakanddagger web site was immediately attacked and brought down within a half an hour after Skolnick posted his story called "U.S. Nervous Breakdown" that originally reported the release of the indictments. The web site was further attacked later Friday evening and was unavailable throughout the remainder of the night and was finally brought back on line sometime Saturday morning.

Death Watch at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

By DOUG THOMPSON

Oct 21, 2005, 08:12

For all practical purposes, governing the nation has stopped at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue as aides deal with an increasingly despondent President, mounting scandals and defecting dissidents from the Ship of State.

White House insiders say George W. Bush’s mood swings have increased to the point where meetings with the President must be cancelled, schedules shifted and plans changed to keep a bitter, distracted leader from the public eye.

“He’s like a zombie some days, walking around in a trance,” says one aide who, for obvious reasons, asks not to be identified. “Other times he launches into angry outbursts, cussing out anybody who gets near him.”

Aides say gallows humor has descended on the White House, where the West Wing is now referred to as “death row” and Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, along with Vice Presidential Chief of Staff Scooter Libby, are known as “dead men walking,” a reference to the last walk death row inmates take to the execution chamber.

With indictments expected against Libby or Rove or both any day now from the Valerie Plame scandal, the White House mood has a “Final Days” aura (“Final Days” was the title of Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward’s book about the last days of the Nixon administration). Although no one expects President Bush to be impeached or resign, Internet blogs buzzed this week with talk of a possible resignation by Vice President Dick Cheney.

“That’s bullshit,” says one longtime Republican consultant. “They’ll have to carry Dick Cheney out of here on a stretcher.” But Rove and Libby will be gone if they are indicted and some wonder if the President, whose ability to govern is already limited by despair and detraction, can function without Rove, often referred to as “Bush’s brain.”

“Rove’s role is diminished already,” says one White House aide. “He still meets with The President daily but all this has taken its toll. He looks terrible.”

So does White House Chief of Staff Andy Card, who has served longer in the job than anyone in modern times. Card works 16 and 17-hour days and, in the words of one Republican member of Congress, looks “completely burned out.”

But holding the White House together behind what has been one of the better Presidential propaganda machines is proving next to impossible as the American public and even members of Bush’s own party desert him over the war in Iraq, the nomination of White House counsel Harriett Miers to the Supreme Court, the Hurricane Katrina debacle, rising gas prices and the Valerie Plame scandal…..

For entire article click here: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artma...cle_7560.shtml

LeftAlone- · Oct 26, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Umm.. Here we go..
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/...eak/index.html

I also heard there was some tuff resistance and Fidzgerald didn't get to publicly announce the indictments, but hes' working on it.
We should be getting some interesting action going on before the week ends.

Developing...

LeftAlone- · Oct 27, 2005, 02:26 PM // 14:26

I would be really happy to see some conversation in here..
I believ that most of you have already noticed whats going on in the news..
I don't know how much is this subject being shown on TV over in America, but here on BBC World its popping up all the time.

The latest: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/...ons/index.html

There we see one really important person for George Bush say bye bye.

As on the news of BBC was said just a moment ago, when these indictments go through, the results will be devestating to the White House. An immediate resignation will be expected from many.

Now no longer 'aliens' channel that stuff on pages like fourwinds10.com, now we get to hear the same, with a bit less detail, on the news.
I've been fallowing this all since 2001.. And finally it has got to the point where it is now.. I can't wait to see whats gonna happen.